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David Moadel replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Steve, I generally go out 45 days til expiration when selling options, and 3 to 6 months out when buying options. I am never, ever sure of hitting a home run, so selling an OTM put softens the blow when I’m wrong.
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Richard Jenkins replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
With IB closing out a 300 share UVXY short I had on(Due to what appears to be that they let me short the shares, but by the time the T+2 Settlement occurred the shares were unavailable so they closed the trade. Lame) I instead put that liquidity into a Jan 18’19 Synethic short centered on the 12 strike.
Kinda sucks from a trade management point…[Read more]
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ereitzel replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
And the last of available VXX shares at Scottrade are locked. About a 23% run from 26 to 31.99 over 6 sessions. Be interesting to see how much higher it can go. I looked at a volatility spike from late October of 2016, and VXX ran about 25% (the 2x’s ran about 50%). That may not mean anything, but that one was memorable because I got caught too…[Read more]
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kellykline replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
There’s still a short term backwardation to worry about on the m1/m2s
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RonTurkey replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
i added a short batch of vxx at 31.39 and added 20 shares of svxy at 116.94 and 30 shares at 11.70. Can’t find shares of other VOL etp’s.. VIX Futures falling hard, i hope this continues.. Needless to say, these trades take a strong stomach.
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Kevin Ann started the topic To Explain or To Predict in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Here’s a very cool paper: To Explain or to Predict by Prof. Galit Schmueli
https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.ss/1294167961The paper goes into backwards-looking statistical descriptive statistics vs. forward-looking prescriptive probabilities, and issues surrounding that. It’s particularly important since lots of risk measures (e.g. volatility),…[Read more]
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Steve McIntosh replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
@david-moadel would you mind explaining the vertical put spread for VXX in more detail? Would the ITM and OTM be of the same expiration date? Can you give an example using today’s VXX spike? Thanks.
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volguru replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Thank you ladies & gentlemen.
Aim of the post was to to take stock and make sure all of us are not getting into group think that everyone is adding to positions here.
I would personally advise caution especially if tomorrow we get a repeat of today. All it takes is a small healthy correction (which the markets need and is actually good in the…[Read more]
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ereitzel replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Dumped a batch of UVXY at 9.36 (for a small loss) last week to add liquidity and carefully layer up some VXX, today took some at 29.25 and 30 in the AH. Less chance of a margin call and better executions with share liquidity. So, I’m in after rearranging last week. Still holding a TVIX position that I plan on keeping for a long time. (but it’s…[Read more]
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RonTurkey posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago
Really feeling the pain today. $UVXY $VXX – just need to take a step back and not get so concerned with the recent draw down. It’s tough to rewire your brain.
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Steve McIntosh replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Thinking $SPY could go for a gap fill tomorrow at 283.36 before reversing and heading higher. Reserving 60% of available short vol capital for now.
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Ricardo Reisdorfer replied to the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
just couldn’t pass the chance to short the last batch of VXX at 29.90 ;). Full core position now.
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volguru started the topic I'm Out in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Maintaining 100% liquidity for now.
Not comfortable with the daily volatility spikes, yield rises and major banks calling for a correction. No point hedging losses when you can avoid the losses in the first place.
Aim of the post is to get a quick poll on Who’s In / Who’s Out
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ultrafeel replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Gentlemen!
i agree with Seth of course that a ‘real’ black swan of course is a sudden, totally unexpected event, such as 9/11 as a prime example.
A correction or even crash over a month/years is not considered to be a black swan.The other point is: It doesn’t really matter whether we use a 10’000, 100’000 or 10 million $ account!
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Scott Mason replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
Here is another formula for tail risk hedging I got from a PM friend who works in a bank, zero premium hedge:
“an interesting / useful / cheap tail hedge, when vol and preferably skew are low, is the ratio put back spread on indices. Sell two atm puts to pay for one otm put. Zero premium net. Do in 6 mths term and unwind at 3mths before theta…[Read more]
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Sunil Narayana posted an update 6 years, 11 months ago
Long Xiv/SVXY are easy interms of risk management compared to VXX. The challenge is in the years/times where its very flat movements…SVXY will lose value but short VXX would be profitable…in no measure i am neither an expert nor an achiever. I am here to learn honestly…for now, I am just trying pair trade of UVXY/VXX at the ratio of 1:2.5,…[Read more]
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RonTurkey replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
I suppose the other thing to mention, is that most that start a 10k account lose patience and try to turn that into 50k. While that sounds doable, it just simply isn’t the norm in the markets – no free money.
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RonTurkey replied to the topic Short VXX and UVXY with protection against Black Swan in the forum UVXY, TVIX, VXX, XIV, SVXY, VIXY, VMAX, VMIN 6 years, 11 months ago
@seth-golden Seth, I noticed you tended to dissuade this trade with that example of capital size “at this stage of the bull cycle.” So, how are you weighting this conclusion to @ultrafeel? Imo, the time management is the issue. It’s not worth all the time spent to manage a 10k account shorting vol (unless you did a set it and forget it core…[Read more]
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Scott Mason replied to the topic Earnings Earnings Earnings in the forum S&P 500 Analysts Notes 6 years, 11 months ago
It’s been fantastic trading pre-earnings thus far. Mostly 40dCalls
For next week MSFT, AMZN, MA, GOOGL, FB, BA, QCOM, EA, UPS, all good thus far. AAPL, GLW and GPRO have not come in.
These above are the best trades on the board.
MSFT now on forth reload.
MR Softy
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Scott Mason replied to the topic The Second Coming of Microsoft in the forum FANG Stock Headlines & Happenings 6 years, 11 months ago
I guess I am just too stupid to figure out how to post a clickabe link or image on this board
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